I was persuaded by Support’s reasonable explanaĭennis…PW is fine for what it does, I used to use it years ago myself before switching to 1PW v3…and my wife still uses it despite my recommendation to switch…and I have no idea whether it will adequately import files from 1PW. I have been computing since 1986 and in 2008 switched to Apple and remained with the brand every since. I am not a iCloud person and don’t feel comfortable with content up there rather than down here on my equipment. Support explained it to me in a way that, frankly, I felt I can accept. I accepted Support’s reply to my concern having kept up with discussions in Tidbits about certain objections to 8 because of the changes that so many felt were deal breakers. Support at 1PW provided non-stop support and given 1PW7 is no longer supported with updates beyond security, given the ease of use of 8, given the support I received with diagrams showing me everything I needed to know to familiarize my use of 8 compared to 7, I made the upgrade, and do not regret it. I was a tad confused with where things has gone, i.e., creating a password which easily appeared in 7 in the menu section, which I used enough to want it readily accessible. I won’t get into the “greed” criteria as I am more than willing to pay for the advantages I receive employing 1PW8F every day. That’s precisely what I did given I was informed by the folks at 1PW that 7 Family was no longer supported with updates beyond security updates. I still think that automated local backup and restore should be in the app…but it’s not…and that users should not have to roll their own CCC task or depend on TM or whatever other backup method they use…but I can work around their IMO deliberately imposed limitations. It isn’t that I don’t like the alternatives…just that most of my objections to v8 have been addressed adequately. That said…I’m staying on v7 until it no longer works. I still don’t like the fact that their VC owners/part owners are driving the train for profit and moving the business model (IMO) to corporate/enterprise to the detriment of individual users…but it’s their company so I don’t get a vote on that other than leaving…and on further reflection and finding out additional info the elegance (even though v8 is less elegant than v7 is) of their app compared to the alternatives has me thinking that unless the alternatives bring back some of the capabilities that 1PW has and they don’t I might eventually go with v8. My objections to v8 were…local backup/restore which is non negotiable, subscription which I already have anyway, lack of DropBox storage which was critical until I found that their copy is essentially a backup and used for sync only unless one logs in through the web site, and the non native macOS client which is pretty much a nothing burger to me. Also…there was a complete lack of local backup/restore…but they have revealed the actual location of the local fully encrypted copy and that using CCC or TM or whatever to backup that works…and that if Bad Things © happen resulting in complete loss of data on their end (which I agreed all along was highly unlikely but highly unlikely does not equate to impossible and the IT sysadmin in me frowned on that approach…anyway a restore on a single device on my end followed by sync will replicate in the worst case scenario my backed up copy of the vaults to their servers. In addition…I was not aware at the time that all decryption is done on device or in browser and that the only copy of the data that their servers has is fully double encrypted with the Master and Secret Keys. At that point…dunno what I’ll do, will evaluate again if there are new options to consider but if I had to decide today I would reluctantly go to 1PW v8.ĭid more evaluation and the lack of formatted Secure Notes is something I’m just not willing to live without. While I don’t really like the greed issue…none of the other options have come close enough to meeting needs for me except 1PW v7…which I will continue to use until it dies and/or they refuse to support it any more and/or it breaks on a macOS update and they decline to fix it. While I agree with the greed problem in #2… #1 being a security issue is less of a problem with 1PW v8 because the overall encryption is done on your device and only the essentially double encrypted blob is uploaded to their servers…and if you log in via web you have to input both your Master Password and Secret Key and they keep neither of those as all of the decryption happens on your end in the browser window. While I can’t claim to have evaluated every possibility…I’ve done most of the major ones and I’ve found nothing that meets all 6 of those criteria.
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